tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post910656559475313321..comments2023-10-22T05:51:58.898-04:00Comments on Soob: George Orwell: Fiction or Prophecy?Jay@Soobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12208597218366281778noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-48653341656943253232008-08-08T22:47:00.000-04:002008-08-08T22:47:00.000-04:00Sorry that should read "The video screens remind o...Sorry that should read "The video screens remind of when they used to loop those anti-drug commercials in the lobby of the local cineplex and even piping the audio into the bathrooms."The Red Sonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13208734710414007893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-15602287276435186192008-08-08T17:58:00.000-04:002008-08-08T17:58:00.000-04:00Add to that a disarmed populace and you got yourse...Add to that a disarmed populace and you got yourself a recipe for techno-fascism. The video screens remind of when they used to loop those anti-drug commercials in the lobby and even piping the audio into the bathrooms. Being a Vermonter, I was especially perturbed by the noise and thought pollution.The Red Sonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13208734710414007893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-67080806504674858672008-08-08T17:51:00.000-04:002008-08-08T17:51:00.000-04:00Gents,Apologies for my late reply. I'm offline for...Gents,<BR/>Apologies for my late reply. I'm offline for a few more days.<BR/><BR/>This goes well beyond Britains camera happy ways. Specifically these permanent video screens and:<BR/><BR/>"“provide important information and will be <B>able to get out messages about antisocial behaviour”</B>."Jay@Soobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12208597218366281778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-86362113115479443372008-08-04T17:51:00.000-04:002008-08-04T17:51:00.000-04:00The Red Son---"...billions of dollars in investmen...The Red Son---"...billions of dollars in investment [and] they have little to show for it..." Sir, we are talking about the government here. What do you really find questionable.<BR/><BR/>Joking aside, the cameras do work. I know from first hand knowledge. That is just reality. However, I challenge any leader who feels brave enough to remove them, to go ahead. Please. God help him, and his government, when something happens that the very cameras they pulled could have eye witnessed a serious crime. A camera gone that could have provided the police with a valuable led in a heinous crime. Especially terrorism. Please remove them. All I can say is: Fool!Jeff Willshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05943209290786814576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-40927121278679442072008-08-04T16:52:00.000-04:002008-08-04T16:52:00.000-04:00But the fact that after billions of dollars in inv...But the fact that after billions of dollars in investment they have little to show for it raises some questions in my mind as to ulterior motives for installing the technology.The Red Sonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13208734710414007893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-13888177897630381992008-08-04T07:30:00.000-04:002008-08-04T07:30:00.000-04:00The Red Son---Reading the article it’s no wonder t...The Red Son---Reading the article it’s no wonder they’re not getting much out of it. The police have not invested in the technology to support the system. They are also not doing some very basic things for success. This is a pathetic waste of money under such constraints. First, images need clarity and cameras need to be high tech. Second, suspects should have their face plastered all over the internet and TV. Third, you must have databases with the tech to face scan and match suspects. I think they’re catching on to that. Finally. That technology is not new and should have been in place already. It doesn’t sound like they have motivated personnel either. In America monitoring cameras help solve crimes all the time. Crime is no different here than there. It is how the cameras are utilized and the tech invested in them. <BR/><BR/>I see where police have started working the system better they’re getting results: “In districts where the Viido scheme is working, CCTV is now helping police in 15-20% of street robberies.” Those success numbers could easily be moved up to 30% or more with more tech and some much needed policy changes; like getting the faces of people wanted out into the public everywhere.Jeff Willshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05943209290786814576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-89809407108228565162008-08-03T22:26:00.000-04:002008-08-03T22:26:00.000-04:00Left wing political website? How about the Guardia...Left wing political website? How about the Guardian newspaper?<BR/>http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/may/06/ukcrime1<BR/><BR/>To quote the lead paragraph<BR/><I>Massive investment in CCTV cameras to prevent crime in the UK has failed to have a significant impact, despite billions of pounds spent on the new technology, a senior police officer piloting a new database has warned. Only 3% of street robberies in London were solved using CCTV images, despite the fact that Britain has more security cameras than any other country in Europe.</I>The Red Sonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13208734710414007893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-42830254210061008192008-08-03T20:12:00.000-04:002008-08-03T20:12:00.000-04:00The Red Son---Not sure where you may be getting yo...The Red Son---Not sure where you may be getting your data, but 5% is simply not true. That sounds like data taken from a left wing political website. A good camera, in the right place, pointing in the right direction, capturing the crime on tape, is an invaluable tool for catching the suspects. Not to mention the deterent effect, which cameras do have. That cameras help catch bad guys is just reality. One need only recall the London bombers caught on tape entering a subway station. I do have some inside knowledge on this. Camera’s are effective in so many ways now, especially with all the new digital technology. It is amazing what we can get out of them now. <BR/><BR/>As for Orwell. You’re the second blogger to recommend Shooting and Elephant to me. I have a copy of Orwell’s essays, so I need to get started. Thanks.Jeff Willshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05943209290786814576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-85562687348378498132008-08-02T23:23:00.000-04:002008-08-02T23:23:00.000-04:00Jeff- I think less than 5% of street crimes in the...Jeff- I think less than 5% of street crimes in the UK are solved through the use of CCTV. Also I like his essay "Shooting an elephant," as it provides an intense allegory for thinking about colonialism.The Red Sonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13208734710414007893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-54376318301508937172008-08-02T20:36:00.001-04:002008-08-02T20:36:00.001-04:00Oh, and I love Orwell's work, especially his essay...Oh, and I love Orwell's work, especially his essays.Jeff Willshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05943209290786814576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-83701128397048615902008-08-02T20:36:00.000-04:002008-08-02T20:36:00.000-04:00I can't totally agree with all this. The governmen...I can't totally agree with all this. The government is damned if they do, damned if they don't. There is a legitimate need for security and for keeping the public informed. The very first thing asked of government leaders is "what did you do to avoid this tragedy." If your in public, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. Simply video taping a public square, without sound, for 24 hours a day, to assist the authorities is catching criminals is perfectly fair and the right thing to do. Of course I agree their must be limits. But in public, or in public establishments, you can't expect absolute privacy. Big Brother is watching because your standing out in the open.<BR/><BR/>I am purposely being a little polemic here, just so you know.Jeff Willshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05943209290786814576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-59366002271115528322008-08-02T16:58:00.000-04:002008-08-02T16:58:00.000-04:00I just reread 1984 and had many of the same though...I just reread 1984 and had many of the same thoughts.The Red Sonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13208734710414007893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-23408679705291691312008-08-02T07:32:00.000-04:002008-08-02T07:32:00.000-04:00Fiction frequently appears to be prophecy, so ther...Fiction frequently appears to be prophecy, so there is no contradiction.SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.com