tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post8714700079377637716..comments2023-10-22T05:51:58.898-04:00Comments on Soob: Mexico is Looking More and More Like IraqJay@Soobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12208597218366281778noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-66718787490823449582008-09-21T20:29:00.000-04:002008-09-21T20:29:00.000-04:00The war seems nigh impossible for the Mexican gove...The war seems nigh impossible for the Mexican government to win given the resources (money, guns and thugs) of the cartels and the unyielding demand for drugs in the US. Jay, I am glad that you see the futility of the U.S. sponsored War on drugs. I believe that it is partially a ruse to line the pockets of American allies and increase America's military presence in the region through advisers and permanent military bases.<BR/><BR/>On Mexico, 1/3 of their army is stationed in the country's smallest state Chiapas, conducting low-intensity warfare (read terrorism) against peasant communities and to prevent another Zapatista uprising. Maybe the Mexican government could stop violating the peasants human rights and go after these violent cartels. Just a thought...The Red Sonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13208734710414007893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-62511071937936213432008-09-17T20:13:00.000-04:002008-09-17T20:13:00.000-04:00Hey Jeff,Lot's of poltical courage has been poured...Hey Jeff,<BR/><BR/>Lot's of poltical courage has been poured into America's own war on drugs, and lots of cash and man power and education. To what end?Jay@Soobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12208597218366281778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-17712003230730513662008-09-17T19:57:00.000-04:002008-09-17T19:57:00.000-04:00Hi steve in slc, thanks much for the comment.A ran...Hi steve in slc, thanks much for the comment.<BR/><BR/>A random killing via grenade here in the US would make headlines. I suppose the killing could be attributed to some deranged individual but there's little question that a massive increase in violence has come to Mexico via drug cartels.Jay@Soobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12208597218366281778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-44434582762067408322008-09-17T19:53:00.000-04:002008-09-17T19:53:00.000-04:00Hey glenn,The US presented the Meridan Plan (a nea...Hey glenn,<BR/><BR/>The US presented the Meridan Plan (a near $1/2 billion aid package to combat the drug trade/terrorism... as though the two were the same) with rather definite human rights requirements, including the certification that law enforcement agencies benefiting from the windfall were not corrupt. After Calderon refused the proposal based on it's requirements the pre-requisites were loosened in Calderon's favor and the plan went ahead.<BR/><BR/>This tells me that the issue is near backburner enough to simply acquiesce at the slightest resistance and shovel cash forth. Politically speaking the admin can claim they "tried hard, implemented a $1/2 billion plan to combat blah, blah blah."<BR/><BR/>Realistically speaking they shat money and maybe a small contingency of "oversight" at an issue and moved on.<BR/><BR/>So what, beside drug reform here, can be done? <BR/>The issue should be a national political talking point and on the agenda of both presidential candidates. <BR/>The national conversation regarding Mexico shouldn't be the tedious "beaners stealing our jobs" but should very much be "that country on our southern border is teetering and the corruption and black marketeering hollowing it out is infecting our cities as well."<BR/><BR/>That'd be a start.Jay@Soobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12208597218366281778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-77366665228505963692008-09-17T19:29:00.000-04:002008-09-17T19:29:00.000-04:00Hi b and thanks for the comment. That's a tough qu...Hi b and thanks for the comment. That's a tough question and a bit vague. <BR/><BR/>Anger and fear in Mexico could benefit the cartels fueling it, the corrupt government, the US economy, etc. Could you condense or clarify the question a bit?Jay@Soobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12208597218366281778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-33669530874733293562008-09-17T18:23:00.000-04:002008-09-17T18:23:00.000-04:00A surge along with martial law, and some real poli...A surge along with martial law, and some real political courage might actually do it. It is going to take some time, probably years. But there is no telling who is on the take in the Mexican government. Corruption is everywhere.Jeff Willshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05943209290786814576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-84745108362844697822008-09-17T13:49:00.000-04:002008-09-17T13:49:00.000-04:00I visited the beautiful city of Morelia, in July o...I visited the beautiful city of Morelia, in July of this year. It is truly a beautiful city. (A University town.) I saw a heavy police presence in many places in Mexico, even being stopped by a police road block between cities in Michoacan. I suppose it might be because of the drug cartels, but as an ordinary American tourist, I never really felt in danger at any time. (It's not like Iraq.) <BR/><BR/>How does the Drug cartel benefit from this random killing of ordinary people? How do they know this bombing was even drug related? <BR/><BR/>We have random killings here in the states all the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-87234310858944520712008-09-17T13:11:00.000-04:002008-09-17T13:11:00.000-04:00Until Mexican government can get the people themse...Until Mexican government can get the people themselves that protect the Drug Empires to rebel against this violence I suspect there against will not work. <BR/><BR/>It doesn't help the America undermines anything the Proto-Mexican government does. <BR/><BR/>Besides drug reforms here in the states is there anything else we could do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37179942.post-19552773936829954192008-09-17T10:56:00.000-04:002008-09-17T10:56:00.000-04:00Good insight.In your opinion, and being an outside...Good insight.<BR/><BR/>In your opinion, and being an outsider, who benefits from our (our = mexican citizen)fear and anger?<BR/><BR/>RegardsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com